RTIR Blocks

Has anyone modified RTIR to allow Blocks to be linked to Incident Reports
instead of Incidents? If so, how?

I don’t like the fact that I have to create an Incident Report and then
an Incident to create a Block. That logic is flawed. It assumes it takes
an actual incident to put a block in place, where as you should want to be
proactive and block prior to an incident.

Thanks,
Paul J

Paul,

Why would you want to block an IP before a problem occurs? And how would
you know that the IP is going to be problematic before a problem occurs?

We utilize RTIR for our Abuse handling. External sites email us to
abuse@sagonet.com, which drops into RTIR’s Incident Reports queue. From
there, our Abuse Admins verify the issue, then proceed to open an
Incident & Investigation(outbound ticket to our customer)
simultaneously. If the customer does not correct the problem within ___
amount of time, our Abuse Admins will then open a Block, blocking the
customer IP until they fix the issue.

It may just be how you are using it that causes you to feel the logic is
flawed. As from my example above, it fits perfectly in the logical workflow.

Max

pjaramillo@kcp.com wrote:

Why would you want to block an IP before a problem occurs? And how would
you know that the IP is going to be problematic before a problem occurs?

Let me explain better. An a IP or domain doesn’t have to cause YOU an
incident for it to be blocked. For your business’s sake, you should
proactively block malicious IPs/Domains. There are variety of sources that
provide information on bad IPs and domains. If your not using these and
relying on waiting for something bad to happen, I’m very sorry.

The logic is flawed for this reason. It REQUIRES an incident to occur
before a block can happen. That is flawed in any scenario. A better logic
flow would allow for blocks to be tied to either Incident Reports or
Incidents.

Thanks,
Paul J

From:
“Maxwell A. Rathbone” mrathbone@sagonet.com
To:
pjaramillo@kcp.com, rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Date:
12/03/2009 11:36 AM
Subject:
Re: [rt-users] RTIR Blocks

Paul,

Why would you want to block an IP before a problem occurs? And how would
you know that the IP is going to be problematic before a problem occurs?

We utilize RTIR for our Abuse handling. External sites email us to
abuse@sagonet.com, which drops into RTIR’s Incident Reports queue. From
there, our Abuse Admins verify the issue, then proceed to open an
Incident & Investigation(outbound ticket to our customer)
simultaneously. If the customer does not correct the problem within ___
amount of time, our Abuse Admins will then open a Block, blocking the
customer IP until they fix the issue.

It may just be how you are using it that causes you to feel the logic is
flawed. As from my example above, it fits perfectly in the logical
workflow.

Max

pjaramillo@kcp.com wrote:

Has anyone modified RTIR to allow Blocks to be linked to Incident
Reports
instead of Incidents? If so, how?

I don’t like the fact that I have to create an Incident Report and then

an Incident to create a Block. That logic is flawed. It assumes it takes

an actual incident to put a block in place, where as you should want to
be