RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

Hi all,

Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this?

We are working on a RT 3.8.x virtual appliance based on Debian Lenny for Proxmox VE (pve.proxmox.com) and we want to make sure that the update process will be straight forward for the users - we have already a working release candidate appliance for 3.8.1 and its very cool!

Best Regards,

Martin Maurer

martin@proxmox.com mailto:martin@proxmox.com

http://pve.proxmox.com

Proxmox Server Solutions GmbH

Kohlgasse 51/10, 1050 Vienna, Austria

Martin Maurer wrote:

Hi all,

Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb
http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available
in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I
get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this?

Give it time… it only came out yesterday :slight_smile:

Kind Regards,

Mike Peachey, IT
Tel: +44 114 281 2655
Fax: +44 114 281 2951
Jennic Ltd, Furnival Street, Sheffield, S1 4QT, UK
Comp Reg No: 3191371 - Registered In England
http://www.jennic.com

Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this?

Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly
unstable - it won’t be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new
package name) in the next few days.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb
http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also
similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny
is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2?
anybody working already on this?

Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly
unstable - it won’t be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new
package name) in the next few days.

The point is that Lenny will be the stable release soon and I see no way to use experimental repos or a mix - so we need Lenny packages.

So as it cannot goes into the official Lenny, we need someone who runs and maintains the rt 3.8.x packages for Lenny.

@Jesse, do you have any comment/ideas here?

We are more or less finished with the virtual appliance, so the only open issue is the repository.
(currently we use official Lenny and http://debian.etc.gen.nz for rt 3.8.1 but I am not sure if this will be maintained in the future).

Best Regards,

Martin Maurer

martin@proxmox.com
http://www.proxmox.com

The point is that Lenny will be the stable release soon and I see no way to use experimental repos or a mix - so we need Lenny packages.

That’s not quite true. It’s perfectly possible to add additional
resources to the sources.list and use package pinning; in fact with
experimental packages won’t be pulled in by default anyway.

So as it cannot goes into the official Lenny, we need someone who runs and maintains the rt 3.8.x packages for Lenny.

I will maintain packages in backports.org if necessary, but at the
moment the packages in experimental work fine on lenny so there is no
need to explicitly backport them. If that changes in the future I will
ensure that there are working versions on backports.org (bear in mind
that the lenny-backports repository isn’t open yet).

I’ll try and maintain documentation for use of the packages on etch and
lenny at http://pkg-request-tracker.alioth.debian.org/. I’m currently
deploying rt3.8 using the packages in experimental on etch, and will do
so on lenny at some point after the release, so I’m aware of the need to
make sure they’re installable.

Dominic.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

We are more or less finished with the virtual appliance, so the only open issue is the repository.
(currently we use official Lenny and http://debian.etc.gen.nz for rt 3.8.1 but I am not sure if this will be maintained in the future).

Sorry, I didn’t fully read this section. If it’s essential that you have
a repository which is maintained for lenny during its lifetime in the
long-term and suitable for being maintained for an “appliance” where
there is no expert local admin, I would recommend maintaining your own
repository based on the packages from Debian proper, but we can consider
maintaining one on alioth.debian.org if that makes the most sense.

Dominic.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this?

Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly
unstable - it won’t be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new
package name) in the next few days.

For those who are interested, 3.8.2 packages are now available in Debian
experimental (there are a few more issues to work out before an upload
to unstable, but this packages should be largely working). They should
work on etch (with a few extra packages) and lenny.

Cheers,
Dominic.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

-----Original Message-----
From: rt-users-bounces@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users-
bounces@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves
Sent: Freitag, 09. Jänner 2009 15:51
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

We are more or less finished with the virtual appliance, so the only
open issue is the repository.
(currently we use official Lenny and http://debian.etc.gen.nz for rt
3.8.1 but I am not sure if this will be maintained in the future).

Sorry, I didn’t fully read this section. If it’s essential that you have
a repository which is maintained for lenny during its lifetime in the
long-term and suitable for being maintained for an “appliance” where
there is no expert local admin, I would recommend maintaining your own
repository based on the packages from Debian proper, but we can consider
maintaining one on alioth.debian.org if that makes the most sense.

Dominic.

Hi Dominic,

Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users.
If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful.

Best Regards,
Martin Maurer

martin@proxmox.com
http://pve.proxmox.com

Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users.
If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful.

I’ll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable,
which shouldn’t be long.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages
would be essential for all Lenny users.
If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful.

I’ll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable,
which shouldn’t be long.

Good news, I will test as soon as available!
Br, Martin

http://pve.proxmox.com
martin@proxmox.com

Dominic Hargreaves wrote:> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:06:48PM +0000, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:34:21PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote:

Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this?
Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly
unstable - it won’t be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new
package name) in the next few days.

For those who are interested, 3.8.2 packages are now available in Debian
experimental (there are a few more issues to work out before an upload
to unstable, but this packages should be largely working). They should
work on etch (with a few extra packages) and lenny.

I updated my main RT instance with these packages. Works like a charm,
thanks Dominic!

Regards
Racke

LinuXia Systems => http://www.linuxia.de/
Expert Interchange Consulting and System Administration
ICDEVGROUP => http://www.icdevgroup.org/
Interchange Development Team

Same here.

A.On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:54:42AM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote:

Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:37:10PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote:

Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages
would be essential for all Lenny users.
If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful.

I’ll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable,
which shouldn’t be long.

Good news, I will test as soon as available!
Br, Martin

http://pve.proxmox.com
martin@proxmox.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: rt-users-bounces@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users-
bounces@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves
Sent: Freitag, 16. Jänner 2009 09:36
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages
would be essential for all Lenny users.
If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful.

I’ll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable,
which shouldn’t be long.

Hi Dominic!

Do you got a rough schedule for this?

BTW, did you get a chance to test the already released RT appliance?
http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/Proxmox_VE_RT_Appliance

Best Regards,

Martin

martin@proxmox.com
http://pve.proxmox.com

-----Original Message-----
From: rt-users-bounces@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users-
bounces@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves
Sent: Freitag, 16. J�nner 2009 09:36
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

I’ll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable,
which shouldn’t be long.

Do you got a rough schedule for this?

I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an
upload the same week. I’m just testing our current candidate, but
there’s a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which
I’ll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another
week or so.

BTW, did you get a chance to test the already released RT appliance?
http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/Proxmox_VE_RT_Appliance

No, sorry, this isn’t something that is particularly relevant for us.

Dominic.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an
upload the same week. I’m just testing our current candidate, but
there’s a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which
I’ll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another
week or so.

Current status is that this is currently stalled on a new package
waiting in NEW[0] (libipc-run-safehandles-perl)

I would hazard a guess that ftpmasters are busy preparing for the
release of Lenny, so this might not get processed for a few weeks.

[0] http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an
upload the same week. I’m just testing our current candidate, but
there’s a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which
I’ll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another
week or so.

Current status is that this is currently stalled on a new package
waiting in NEW[0] (libipc-run-safehandles-perl)

I would hazard a guess that ftpmasters are busy preparing for the
release of Lenny, so this might not get processed for a few weeks.

RT 3.8.2 packages are now in unstable.

Cheers,
Dominic.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

-----Original Message-----
From: rt-users-bounces@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users-
bounces@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves
Sent: Montag, 16. März 2009 18:31
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to
do an

upload the same week. I’m just testing our current candidate, but
there’s a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian
which

I’ll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for
another

week or so.

Current status is that this is currently stalled on a new package
waiting in NEW[0] (libipc-run-safehandles-perl)

I would hazard a guess that ftpmasters are busy preparing for the
release of Lenny, so this might not get processed for a few weeks.

RT 3.8.2 packages are now in unstable.

Cheers,
Dominic.

Hi Dominic,

Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny?

Best Regards,

Martin Maurer

martin@proxmox.com
http://pve.proxmox.com

Hi Dominic,

Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable
AND testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an
extra repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny?

… or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be
a better solution.

Tim

The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research
Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a
company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered
office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE.

Hi Dominic,

Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND
testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra
repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny?

… or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be a
better solution.

It’s not a valid upload candidate for lenny-backports, since the version
in testing/unstable does not require rebuilding to work on lenny.

The normal way of handling these cases would be to add, for example,
testing or unstable APT lines, with appropriate package pinning to
avoid pulling anything except the required packages, or to put packages
in a site-local repository.

The last time this was discussed Martin was keen to provide a repository
with just the request-tracker3.8 package and dependencies not satisfied
in lenny, but I’m still in two minds about whether this is worth the
extra work. I certainly don’t have a use case for it (since we already
have our own private apt repositories for local builds).

Martin, could you think again about whether you are able to get by with the
appropriate package pinning?

Dominic.

Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team
Computing Services, University of Oxford

-----Original Message-----
From: Dominic Hargreaves [mailto:dominic.hargreaves@oucs.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: Donnerstag, 02. April 2009 15:59
To: Tim Cutts
Cc: Martin Maurer; rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

Hi Dominic,

Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND
testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra
repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny?

… or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be
a
better solution.

It’s not a valid upload candidate for lenny-backports, since the version
in testing/unstable does not require rebuilding to work on lenny.

The normal way of handling these cases would be to add, for example,
testing or unstable APT lines, with appropriate package pinning to
avoid pulling anything except the required packages, or to put packages
in a site-local repository.

The last time this was discussed Martin was keen to provide a repository
with just the request-tracker3.8 package and dependencies not satisfied
in lenny, but I’m still in two minds about whether this is worth the
extra work. I certainly don’t have a use case for it (since we already
have our own private apt repositories for local builds).

Martin, could you think again about whether you are able to get by with
the
appropriate package pinning?

Thanks, I will test this and give feedback.

Br, Martin