Another Stupid Question

Brian_Lawson · March 29, 2010, 9:46pm

Can you set up RT to log to multiple files? All the examples I’ve seen
look like you can only set one type of log level to log to a file.

-Brian

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Kevin_Falcone · March 29, 2010, 10:08pm

Can you set up RT to log to multiple files? All the examples I’ve seen look like you can only
set one type of log level to log to a file.

Just log to syslog or screen and have syslog/apache do filtering

-kevin

Brian_Lawson · March 30, 2010, 12:08pm

So I can have multiple lines like:

Set($LogToSyslog, ‘debug’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘error’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘info’);

I would think that this would set the $LogToSyslog variable to the last
value, or am I missing something? Again…

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Can you set up RT to log to multiple files? All the examples I’ve
seen look like you can only
set one type of log level to log to a file.

Just log to syslog or screen and have syslog/apache do filtering

-kevin

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Kevin_Falcone · March 30, 2010, 12:58pm

So I can have multiple lines like:

Set($LogToSyslog, ‘debug’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘error’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘info’);

I would think that this would set the $LogToSyslog variable to the last
value, or am I missing something? Again…

No, last one wins.

Why don’t you explain what you want to accomplish, or just log to
syslog and use your syslog config to filter to multiple files.

-kevin

Brian_Lawson · March 30, 2010, 2:51pm

I’m not versed on the syslog filtering options. I would like to see
multiple types of logs, but hopefully have them in their own individual
files so I don’t have to parse through a single file. But even if I
wanted them all to log to a single file (eg. the syslog), the last one
wins, so how can I get the debug, error, and info logs to all log to the
syslog?

-Brian
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Subject: Re: [rt-users] Another Stupid Question

So I can have multiple lines like:

Set($LogToSyslog, ‘debug’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘error’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘info’);

I would think that this would set the $LogToSyslog variable to the
last
value, or am I missing something? Again…

No, last one wins.

Why don’t you explain what you want to accomplish, or just log to
syslog and use your syslog config to filter to multiple files.

-kevin

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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [rt-users] Another Stupid Question

Can you set up RT to log to multiple files? All the examples
I’ve
seen look like you can only
set one type of log level to log to a file.

Just log to syslog or screen and have syslog/apache do filtering

-kevin

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Kevin_Falcone · March 30, 2010, 3:02pm

I’m not versed on the syslog filtering options. I would like to see
multiple types of logs, but hopefully have them in their own individual
files so I don’t have to parse through a single file. But even if I
wanted them all to log to a single file (eg. the syslog), the last one
wins, so how can I get the debug, error, and info logs to all log to the
syslog?

You do realize that when you say ‘debug’ you get EVERYTHING logged up
to the debug level, right?
When you say info, you get everything up to the info level.
If you want to split info/warn/notice/debug into separate files,
you’re going to have to do that somewhere other than RT.

-kevin

Jeff_Voskamp · March 30, 2010, 3:25pm

I’m not versed on the syslog filtering options. I would like to see
multiple types of logs, but hopefully have them in their own individual
files so I don’t have to parse through a single file. But even if I
wanted them all to log to a single file (eg. the syslog), the last one
wins, so how can I get the debug, error, and info logs to all log to the
syslog?

-Brian
(As confused as a blonde alphabetizing M&M’s)

Syslog files from that point and up.
You can then filter in the syslog config file.

Jeff

Brian_Lawson · March 30, 2010, 3:39pm

Honestly, I’m new to linux and RT. I’ve worked with Unix in the past,
but not from an admin standpoint. This has been dropped in my lap and
I’m trying to understand how it works. I like it so far, but the
documentation seems to assume you know administrative information, which
is not my forte.

I apologize for my lack of knowledge, but like I said, I’m trying and I
appreciate all the help that has been give to me. I will look into the
syslog mechanism more to figure out the level hierarchy.

-BrianFrom: rt-users-bounces@lists.bestpractical.com
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Falcone
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:03 AM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Another Stupid Question

I’m not versed on the syslog filtering options. I would like to see
multiple types of logs, but hopefully have them in their own
individual
files so I don’t have to parse through a single file. But even if I
wanted them all to log to a single file (eg. the syslog), the last one
wins, so how can I get the debug, error, and info logs to all log to
the
syslog?

You do realize that when you say ‘debug’ you get EVERYTHING logged up
to the debug level, right?
When you say info, you get everything up to the info level.
If you want to split info/warn/notice/debug into separate files,
you’re going to have to do that somewhere other than RT.

-kevin

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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [rt-users] Another Stupid Question

So I can have multiple lines like:

Set($LogToSyslog, ‘debug’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘error’);
Set($LogToSyslog, ‘info’);

I would think that this would set the $LogToSyslog variable to the
last
value, or am I missing something? Again…

No, last one wins.

Why don’t you explain what you want to accomplish, or just log to
syslog and use your syslog config to filter to multiple files.

-kevin

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Falcone
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:09 PM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Another Stupid Question

Can you set up RT to log to multiple files? All the examples
I’ve
seen look like you can only
set one type of log level to log to a file.

Just log to syslog or screen and have syslog/apache do filtering

-kevin

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Rob_MacGregor · March 30, 2010, 3:43pm

Honestly, I’m new to linux and RT. I’ve worked with Unix in the past,
but not from an admin standpoint. This has been dropped in my lap and
I’m trying to understand how it works. I like it so far, but the
documentation seems to assume you know administrative information, which
is not my forte.

I apologize for my lack of knowledge, but like I said, I’m trying and I
appreciate all the help that has been give to me. I will look into the
syslog mechanism more to figure out the level hierarchy.

Check too whether the host is running syslog, or syslog-ng. The
latter is much more powerful and flexible than the basic syslog and
will give you more options for managing your logging. However if it
isn’t installed I’d recommend you don’t pick this point to do so

             Please keep list traffic on the list.

Rob MacGregor
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
doesn’t become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche

Matthew_Seaman1 · March 30, 2010, 3:10pm

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Hash: SHA1On 30/03/2010 15:51:35, Brian Lawson wrote:

I’m not versed on the syslog filtering options. I would like to see
multiple types of logs, but hopefully have them in their own individual
files so I don’t have to parse through a single file. But even if I
wanted them all to log to a single file (eg. the syslog), the last one
wins, so how can I get the debug, error, and info logs to all log to the
syslog?

You are confused. First of all, the values ‘debug’, ‘error’, ‘info’ are
levels: what you get in the log is everything of the named level or
above. So, if you choose ‘debug’ (the lowest level) you’ll
automatically get all of the ‘error’ and ‘info’ stuff as well.
Conversely, if you choose ‘error’ (the highest of the levels listed),
you’ll not get the lower level ‘debug’ or ‘info’ messages.

You should also look at /etc/syslog.conf which controls where the system
writes the logged data to. Typically you should find everything goes to
at least one log file – /var/log/all.log or /var/log/message or various
other possibilities depending on OS and distro. You can use syslog.conf
to filter messages by log level or various other criteria. You can even
arrange for data to be logged to a separate server on your network.

Cheers,

Matthew

Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
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Brian_Lawson · March 30, 2010, 4:30pm

Thanks to the clarification. I did look in the syslog.conf file and
found the files to look at. I was understanding that ‘debug’, ‘error’,
‘info’, etc. were types of log messages, not levels, and when I found
out they were levels, I didn’t know what the hierarchy was.

Thanks again!

Rob,
I will try out syslog-ng. Thanks for the help

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I’m not versed on the syslog filtering options. I would like to see
multiple types of logs, but hopefully have them in their own
individual
files so I don’t have to parse through a single file. But even if I
wanted them all to log to a single file (eg. the syslog), the last one
wins, so how can I get the debug, error, and info logs to all log to
the
syslog?

You are confused. First of all, the values ‘debug’, ‘error’, ‘info’ are
levels: what you get in the log is everything of the named level or
above. So, if you choose ‘debug’ (the lowest level) you’ll
automatically get all of the ‘error’ and ‘info’ stuff as well.
Conversely, if you choose ‘error’ (the highest of the levels listed),
you’ll not get the lower level ‘debug’ or ‘info’ messages.

You should also look at /etc/syslog.conf which controls where the system
writes the logged data to. Typically you should find everything goes to
at least one log file – /var/log/all.log or /var/log/message or various
other possibilities depending on OS and distro. You can use syslog.conf
to filter messages by log level or various other criteria. You can even
arrange for data to be logged to a separate server on your network.

Cheers,

Matthew

Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
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